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Lord of the Flies: Movie vs Book

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Question for Wednesday, Oct. 28th:  Explain how the movie lacks the build up of the essential concept of FEAR.

 


 

 

 

 

 

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kzeller said

at 2:04 pm on Oct 29, 2008

10-29-08
The movie lacks many things, one being fear. In the book they don't have any adults and no source of light. In the movie they have a captain and glowsticks, which will make them feel safer. What i think is stupid is that even though simon has a glowstick they kill him.Also fear has no role in the movie because of the fact that no one has nightmares in the movie. In the book, however, they have nightmares which make the others scared even more.These dreams come from the littluns and there are no littluns in the movie.

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bcooney said

at 2:09 pm on Oct 29, 2008

In the first part of the book the lttleuns are affraid of the darknes so that gives a certain sence of fear so it makes you afraid. In the movie there is no litteuns so there is no fear of the darkness and the fear just starts when they find the adult in the cave. There is no real build up of the fars or darkness in the movie because the boys are all big.

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rniebruegge said

at 2:10 pm on Oct 29, 2008

The movie lacks the building of fear because of the the glow sticks. Since they have glow sticks they arn't afraid of the dark which means they don't have very many nightmares at all. The descent of savagery is different because Jack doesn't take time to turn into a savage he just happenes to be a savage when they get there. Also when the boys painted their faces, they didn't do it for the savagery, they did it for the coolness.

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swontrobski said

at 2:16 pm on Oct 29, 2008

The Simon in the book and the Simon in the movie are different in so many ways. The Simon is the book for example had black hair but in the movie they changed it so he is now a sandy blonde. Although that's a change, its not a big deal compared to the fact that in the movie he doesn't have epilepsy. He has dreams but its not quite the same as fainting frequently. He now doesn't talk to the Lord of the Flies. In many ways he's the same though. Like his overall personality. They're both kind of loners and don't really fit in with the group. Also they seem connected with nature and are much like caregivers. They're insecurities are similar too.

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tdiickinson said

at 2:20 pm on Oct 29, 2008

The movie lacks the build up in fear because the are no littluns. In the book the littluns are scared of the dark from the begining and have nightmares. In the movie they have glow sticks, eliminating the fear of the dark. Both these factors cause there to not be any fear in the whole beging of the movie untill they find the beast. Also, the captian survives the crash, since an adult is on the island with them, they are not as afraid. In the book there are no adults to comfort them of make them feel safe. all done, bye.

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swontrobski said

at 2:24 pm on Oct 29, 2008

The fear in this movie has completely changed and is almost gone at the beginning. They now have glow sticks since these boys are from a more modern time. This illiminates the nightmares and the fear of the dark, fear that something could be out there. Also the captin that survives takes away some of the fear that no one can really help them now. Even though hes not awake most of the time, an adult being there contributes to the lack of fear.Overall there's no intense build up to the fear which would result in something terrible happening, like Simon's death.

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jbalkind said

at 2:25 pm on Oct 29, 2008

The one main thing the movie lacks is the build up of fear. At the beginning of the book the littluns have nightmares and get scared. Also the littluns are afraid of the dark and think they see a beast. In the movie there really aren't many littluns and they have glows sticks so they always have some sort of light. The boys in the movie never have nightmares about he beast. So when the boys int he book find the beastie you are expecting it and there has been fear build up. But when the boys find the monster in the movie there is no fear build up and changes the fear part of the boys a little bit. To me I think the lack of fear build up ruins the fear a bit because it just happens there is no fear in the beginning or anything. It makes it weird to read the book then watch the movie and see all the differences between the two.

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bjohnson said

at 4:31 pm on Oct 29, 2008

The element of the darkness, of the unknown, is shaterred by the introduction of the glowsticks to the story. To the littleuns, the fear of the beast is just a more elevated form of fear of the dark. Tn the movie, there is no dark to fear, and in effect there is no resonable begaining to the fear. They dont even react in the way the english boys did to the fear.They shair the same names, but the movie boys laack the basic spawning points for the fear in side them. The movie, it seemes, sacrificed the theme in exchange for a smother plotline.

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myohey said

at 4:40 pm on Oct 29, 2008

The movie does not do a good job of showing the essential concept of fear because they don't show the littluns being scared of the dark and the creepers. Instead the littluns have glow sticks so they can't be scared of the dark. The littluns don't have nightmares in the new, well atleast it doesnt show them having nightmares. No one in the very beginning of the movie have fear because the glow sticks, but once one of the littluns sees the monster or beast in the cave that's when the fear is created. Even Jack and Roger become scared of it. it doesn't explain well that some of the boys are scared on the island, but u would think they would feel more safe with a pilot, but really they aren't any safer because the pilot is ill and can hardly comprehend anything. The book does a whole lot of a better job explaining the boys fear than the movie does.

Melissa Yohey

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cgoldstrom said

at 5:06 pm on Oct 29, 2008

Before the boys came to the island, they were part of a military school for boys. That shows that the boys came already horrible and savage. You do not see the slow acent toward savagery like in the book. In the movie there aren't any littleuns and the boys can't really be afraid of the dark, seeing as they have glowsticks. If the movie had contained more reason to show that the boys had some 'fear', then there would have been a legitimate reason to kill Simon, because of this fear. Overall this movie just got it wrong period.

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khill said

at 6:11 pm on Oct 29, 2008

Difference between the book and the movie with the build up of fear is that for one in the movie they have light and an adult, so they are not scared of the nighttime. In the book it is dark and they have no glow sticks or adults, so there is not the same feeling of security and they have nothing to be scared of. Also because they have glow sticks the littluns have no fear of the unknown darkness, and no nightmares. Also there are no littluns on the island in the movie. The darkness makes the littluns think that there is a beast in the woods, sparking the beginning of the fear on the island. But in the movie there is no thinking that there is a monster, they go to the cave and hear it breath and instantly they think there is a monster. Also Simon's death is very different than the book because they had the fear of the beast, and he crawled out of the forest, to provoke them to kill Simon. In the movie he is carrying a glow stick, running down the beach, and there is barely any fear of the monster with the boys, so it is very improbable that that would have happened, EVER
-Khill

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rhampton said

at 6:40 pm on Oct 29, 2008

In the movie there is no build up of fear and i think that this misses one of the main themes that the book is supposed to show. In the book the fear begins on the first night on the island. The littluns are afraid of the dark in the book and so they have nightmares and the fear begins. However, in the movie there are neither of these things. There are no really little boys in the movie and they have glowsticks so they are not afraid of the dark. Also the prescence of the adult on the island in the movie makes the whole thing less scary. Also then there is the actual beast/monster. In the book the fear of the beast builds up through the chapter, but in the movie it happens very fast. Also in the book the beast leaves with Simon but in the movie after they kill Simon the dead captain is still there and they still have a chance to figure out the truth. Because of all of this there is no buildup of fear by the time you get to the climax of Simon's death which doesn't make sense because the fear of the beast is what makes the boys kill Simon and in the movie they are not even scared. It seems like a very bad decision to me to get rid of the fear because it is an essential part of the entire plot of the story.

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jhild said

at 7:57 pm on Oct 29, 2008

In the movie, the boys came already as bad kids, while in the book they came as innocent choir boys. Since in the book they came as inocent boys the decent to saveragary stood out more than in the movie. In the movie there is no descent into savargry-because thet were already bad. In the novel, painted faces represent the path into savaragy while in the movie it is just for coolness. The littluns are afraid of the dark and their nightmares: those put together equal the start of everyone's fear; there is also no adults on the island so that helps the fear grow. In the movie there are really no littleuns so there is no nightmare, no dark because they have glowsticks, and there is an adult on the island. There is no build-up of fear. When Simon is killed in the book is is actually acceptable as an accident because he came crawling out of the trees when is was dark and all of the boys were very firghtened. In the movie it is completely improbable becaus he came running down the beach, on two feet, and he had a glowstick-you could see all of his human form.After Simon is killed the beast leaves with him, but in the movie the boys could go look in the cave and find the dead captian, find the truth. In the movie there is no build up of fear, this misses one of William Golding's themes.

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mdoody said

at 8:42 pm on Oct 29, 2008

This movie is lacking fear along with many other important concepts. They do not show the littluns being scared as much as they do in the book. The only part that you can see fear is during the storm. Because there are glow sticks, it takes away the fear of darkness. That was a big part of the book that i thought would be added to the movie as well. When Simon is running down the beach and is mistaken as the beast, you kknow it is happening because he has a glow stick which takes away the mystery and scarriness of the night time storm. I think the movie has left out alot of important features other than fear.

Margaret Doody

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saplin said

at 9:06 pm on Oct 29, 2008

The build up of the concept of fear in thew book is almost crushed completely by the book because of many things. For one, in the book, their is nearly no littluns on the island that address the fear of the darkness at all. Also the fear of the darkness is eliminated by the glowsticks. THe comfort of having an adult on the island also deminishes the fear even though he ran away fairly early in the movie. The build up of fear happened relitively fast too which didnt make the fear that noticable. Additionally, in the book, when Simon dies the beast "dies with him," but in the movie Simon dies and the captain or beast is still in the cave rotting. So, i believe the build up or concept of fear in the movie is lacking because their is not enough details that lead up to the death of Simon/the beast.

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ctresten said

at 1:59 pm on Oct 30, 2008

The movie lacks fear as in they had glow sticks afterwards their crash. Since there was light, no one seemed to be afraid. When the beast appeared in the cave (the captain referring from a littun) he brought fear to the hunters and Jack, which he of course didn't seem to be afraid. As in the book, They didn't have glow sticks, it was dark. Simon was the only one who actually saw the beast. It was a fighter pilot. In the movie, Simon as well did see the beast, but he wasn't as afraid. Simon runs along the beach, in both settings, and the fear builds up in everyone. It was the instinct to kill. Going back to the lacking of the fear, The hunters don't show much detail of the fear, since of light. If they didn't have the glowsticks and fire, it would have the concept of fear, which it doesn't have.

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ariley said

at 2:00 pm on Oct 30, 2008

The build up of fear in the movie is very little. In the movie, there are hardly any littluns on the island when the crashed. In the book, there are more littluns who contribute to the fear of the dark. In the movie they have glow sticks, and the captain is alive, and though he doesn't give much help, having him there still comforts them. The littluns also were the first to bring a fear of the beast. The only beginning of fear is when the captain disappears and the "beast" is found in a cave. Also in the book Simon dies "with the beast" when he is the only one that would have the courage to find out if the beast was real or not. In the movie, the beast is still there in the cave rotting. If one of the boys decided to look again, they could find out that it was really just the captain. I think that the fear buildup is not strong enough to blame anyone for Simon's death, giving the boys no reason to kill him.

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hfake said

at 2:08 pm on Oct 30, 2008

The movie doesn't doagood job of creating the easintal concept of fear beacuase the littleuns don't have night terrors, there is no dark because of the glow sticks and the captain suvives. With out the littleuns being afraid it doesn't get anyone else thinking that there might be somethings to fear on the island. Since the movie has glow sticks it takes away the fear that there is something lurking in front of you because you can see in the dark. Because the captain made it to the island it took away the fear that they were alone.
I liked the book more than the movie but they are both good.

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hdaley said

at 2:16 pm on Oct 30, 2008

In the book, the boys come to the island as innocent choir boys and there is no adults on the island either. They are innocent in the book at first, and when they begin to become savages, it's more noticeable. In the movie, when jack paints his face it's a sign of coolness, not savagery. Since there is an adult on the island it still gives them the comfort of having a rules and supervision. In the book the little'uns have nightmares and are afraid of the dark; the boys in the movie don't have nightmares and have glow sticks. Also, when Simon is killed in the movie, it is so unlikely because he has a glow stick and you can see him perfectly. But in the book he is crawling out of the forest kind of stumbling and it is dark out, this accident is accepted as a mistake and they blame it on Simon. In the book, when that event took place, there was fear because the boys were all talking about the beast at that time. The movie has left out a ton of important features and has ruined the theme of fear.

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ghirsch said

at 7:12 pm on Oct 30, 2008

In the book the boys had fear of the dark, and the "beast". There were many little'uns in the book, that were very scared of the dark, and had many nightmares because of that. In the movie there are hardly any little'uns. And all the boys have glow sticks, so the dark isn't really an example of fear. They also have the captain there alive, so he comforts them even though he is very sick.. but the thought that an adult is there makes them feel more safe. Another buildup of fear in the book is the boys are having nightmares about the "beast", and when Simon dies the "beast dies with him" and he crawls and stumbles out of the forest, it was understandable he was mistaken for the beast, it was dark and he was crawling on all fours. In the movie,the "beast" was still in the cave rotting. Simon was running on the beach holding a glow stick, so you could see his face, but the boys still killed him. I personally think the movie did a terrible job showing the build up of fear.

Griffin Hirsch

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ghirsch said

at 7:13 pm on Oct 30, 2008

10/30/08

In the book the boys had fear of the dark, and the "beast". There were many little'uns in the book, that were very scared of the dark, and had many nightmares because of that. In the movie there are hardly any little'uns. And all the boys have glow sticks, so the dark isn't really an example of fear. They also have the captain there alive, so he comforts them even though he is very sick.. but the thought that an adult is there makes them feel more safe. Another buildup of fear in the book is the boys are having nightmares about the "beast", and when Simon dies the "beast dies with him" and he crawls and stumbles out of the forest, it was understandable he was mistaken for the beast, it was dark and he was crawling on all fours. In the movie,the "beast" was still in the cave rotting. Simon was running on the beach holding a glow stick, so you could see his face, but the boys still killed him. I personally think the movie did a terrible job showing the build up of fear between the boys.

Griffin Hirsch

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bkelley said

at 8:52 pm on Oct 30, 2008

In the book all of the little start having nightmares because they are afraid of the dark, and one littleun thinks that he has seen a beastie in the trees. Also when Sam 'n Eric are watching the fire they see a figur in the trees so they run to the beach to tell all of the other kids. And there are no adults. In the movie none of the littluns have nightmares, it just starts when one kid goes in the cave and heres something and he stabs it and runs out to Jacks group. They also have glow sticks so its not as dark as it is in the book. Lastly one of the main differences is that they Caption of the plane survises, when they are around him they feel safe

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sfranklin said

at 9:02 pm on Oct 30, 2008

This movie does lack the build up of fear in many ways. One of the ways is in the book the littluns keep on having the recurrence of a nightmare of the "beast" because they are afraid of the dark. In the movie they have
glowsticks so they can't be afraid of the dark. In the book when the littluns would get scared it would reflect on everybody else on the island that got them thinking that there was a beast. In the movie the littluns don't worry as much so the bigguns also don't get all worried about it too. They also have the captain even though he doesn't do much he still does comfort the littluns . Also (in the book) when they kill Simon he is easily mistken as the beats because his blood vesel popped and there was blood all over his face so the fear in the boys took over, but in the movie Simon was running with a glowstick so they could see his face. Right before Simon was running (in the movie) the boys weren't really taken over by fear.

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jgerald said

at 8:42 am on Nov 4, 2008

The book shows the fear that makes us scared and turn to our instincts. In the book the littluns are scared of the dark and many other things. Thiss builds up to the overall fear of the beast. But in the movie there are barely any littluns and there is no fear. They have glow sticks to keep out the dark and they are military boys,not english school boys. Also in the book there ar no adults. So this helps bring the fear. In the movie the captain survives.The captain also turns out to be the beast. In the book its a dead fighter pilot.The captain gives more comfort because there is an adult on the island. I believe the book was a lot better than the movie. The book didnt bring out the fear in humans and the evil like the book.

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